Define Chaldeans Meaning

Chaldeans
The Chaldeans are adherents of the Chaldean Catholic Church and are a subset of the Assyrian people.

Today in the middle east, the group identifies itself as Sūrāyā in singular and Sūrāyē in plural which is considered to be a synonym of Aššūrāye (Assyrians.) However, the group mistakenly translates the word Suraye as Christians.

They have been settling primarily in Iraq, with smaller communities in Turkey and Iran, for the most part speaking the Chaldean Neo-Aramaic language. A formerly Nestorian denomination, they were reunited with the Roman Catholic Church in 1553 Chaldean Catholic Church was established, its first patriarch was proclaimed patriarch of "Mosul and Athur" (Nineveh and Assyria) on Feb. 20, 1553 by Pope Julius III.

Chaldean Catholics have no direct or absolute lineage with the Neo-Babylonian Empire "Chaldeans", but were designated with the name Chaldean in the 16th century when they reunited with the Catholic Church to distinguish from the adherents of the Assyrian Church of the East.


Mar Raphael I Bidawid, a patriarch of the Chaldean Catholic Church: “I personally think that these different names serve to add confusion. The original name of our Church was the ‘Church of the East’ ... When a portion of the Church of the East became Catholic, the name given was ‘Chaldean’ based on the Magi kings who came from the land of the Chaldean, to Bethlehem. The name ‘Chaldean’ does not represent an ethnicity... We have to separate what is ethnicity and what is religion... I myself, my sect is Chaldean, but ethnically, I am Assyrian.”

Mar Raphael I Bidawid: “Before I became a priest I was an Assyrian, before I became a bishop I was an Assyrian, I am an Assyrian today, tomorrow, forever, and I am proud of it.”

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By Korrie
Chaldeans
For the Teans of Bloomfield Hills, which borders West Bloomfield, Chaldeans are christian arabs who make up the majority of West Bloomfield and are most commonly found in Birmingham and attend West Bloomfield High school, Chaldean teans are cocky gotti wannabees whos parents spend all of their money getting these spoiled hardasses nice cars and clothes...Chaldeans also are given cell phones at birth with all 257 cousins on speed dial just in case one of them talk to much shit to the wrong people.

Chaldeans might call their cousins if you talk shit, but they are all talk.
By Deedee
Chaldeans
I recently read Joyce Wiswell's piece entitled "Will - and should - Chaldeans and Assyrians unite?" and I firmly believe that the identity designation of "Chaldean" should not be used interchangeably with "Assyrian.”

Many Assyrians argue that the designation of the Chaldean name is religious, and not cultural. At first, when the Catholic Church gave the Assyrian Catholics the name “Chaldean” in 1553, we shared nearly identical traits in our culture with the other Assyrians. But we are currently living half a millennium after the fact. In those 500 years, Chaldeans have developed their own dialect, traditions, and ways. Our culture is directly correlated to our religion, Catholicism. This doesn’t mean that we cannot have a culture to supplement our strong religious values.

In Michigan alone, there are 120,000 Chaldeans. I would venture to guess that 80% refuse to denote themselves as Assyrians. There’s a reason for this choice; we are no longer the same people. Our parents didn’t just decide that we aren’t Assyrians out of thin air. We’ve acknowledged ourselves as Chaldeans for centuries, and we’ve embraced our culture. It’s ours, and we shouldn’t be willing to compromise it by assimilating into an Assyrian identity. In my 18th year as a Chaldean, I’ve been criticized for not calling myself Assyrian, which isn’t only an identity I don’t associate with, but also a name that will become the end to our culture.

Examine the consequences of Chaldeans accepting ancient relations and identifying themselves as Assyrians. Already, the forced assimilation has occurred in media. A prime example is of the recently martyred Father Ragheed Ganni of Iraq, who was mentioned as an Assyrian priest killed in an Assyrian Church, with no mention of his ties to the Chaldean Catholic Church. Our Chaldean villages, like Telkeppe and Alqosh, are designated as Assyrian villages on the user-edited Wikipedia, which millions of users use as a source of reliable information. Our name is being erased, and this systematic and carefully planned Assyrianization (as I call it), will prove to be the end of the Chaldeans. We'll be remembered historically as the Ancient Chaldeans, and that's if the history books of the future don’t decide to call us Catholic Assyrians.

Assyrianization is very similar to the Arabization process. The Arab name was forced on us in Iraq. We were forced to speak Arabic, and punished when we spoke our mother tongue. Indeed, history repeats itself, and this time, it’s more subtle. This approach is proving an end to our rich culture, just by simply identifying as an Assyrian. As I’ve already illustrated, there’s so much to a name; it is not just a name.

Hopefully, Assyrian groups will not insist an identity change from the Chaldeans. It is my hope that we can work together, without forcing an identity on anyone else, in order to help our suffering people of Iraq. We’re related to the Assyrians historically, but we’re no longer the same people. We’re simply Modern Assyrians and Modern Chaldeans. We’re different. And everyone should assess the consequences of this very important issue before a culture is erased.


-Hadeer

ashur (assyrians): i love assyria!

yousif (chaldeans): bro, assyria doesn't exist anymore
By Casie
Chaldeans
A lot of Assyrians are too proud of their roots, so they love proving that Chaldeans are really Assyrians.

Let me say, if you are Chaldean, more than likely, you are historically Catholic. The name came from the Catholic church back in the 15th century to break ties Chaldeans (babylonians at the time) from their previous ties identities to other groups. Chaldeans maintain full communion with the Pope in Rome today.

But the Assyrian population is not constrained by the Catholic religion. There are many different religious affiliations with the Assyrian identity, such as the Assyrian Church of the East, Assyrian Evangelical Church, and Assyrian Pentecostal Church, to name a few.

Assyrian Catholics and Chaldean Catholics are ancient people, and chaldeans, syriacs, and assyrians came from one people and then split off into 3 groups, but both groups have evolved, so for anyone to say we are the same people are extremely ignorant.



But let's say we are all Assyrian. Taking this information from the Assyrian International News Agency (AINA), 45% of Assyrians are Chaldeans (i.e. THE MAJORITY). The Assyrian identity proponents want a majority to change their name?

Finally, as a little anecdote, as my uncle/boss was reading the article (he is around 38 years old), he asked me "what is an Assyrian?" If that doesn't clearly illustrate to you why we shoud not change our name, then I don't know what will. If a man does not even know what an Assyrian is, how can we forge through the trenches and call him an Assyrian, something he knows nothing about?



Chaldeans can unite with Assyrians not through name change; it is completely unnecessary and irrelevant. When you say "Save Christians of Iraq" that encompasses all Christians, not just Chaldeans, Assyrians, and Syriacs. "Assyrian" is NOT a great unifier. Whoever decided to start this whole Assyrian campaign is an idiot. It is offensive, unintelligent, and based on hubris. It is the sole reason that there is a division today. I'm happy that Chaldeans aren't laying down and taking everything they are being spoon fed for face value. I am one of those THOUSANDS upon THOUSANDS of Chaldeans.


Chaldeans seperating from Assyrians is older from the Americans seperating from the English. Does that make Americans truly English? NO.


- H.S.

Ashur (assyrians): YOU'RE ALL ASSYRIAN! WE MUST SAVE THE ASSYRIAN NAME SO WE CAN GET OUR LAND AND SAVE OUR PEOPLE!

Brando (syriacs): Okay, let's call ourselves syrian and get the land

Sargon (assyrians): NEVER!

Yousif (chaldeans): Yeah, you tell 'em, Brando!
By Mariska
Chaldean
We are not Arabs Stop Calling Us arabs. Chaldeans Speak Aramaic that is there original language we are the orginal inhabitiants of Iraq orginally called mesopotamia. We are a minority among Arabs. We are Roman Catholics. Arabs killed most of our people and forced many to convert we are not arabs!!! Some chaldeans may speak arabic only because they were raised around arabs and there culture. Just like when the white people came and took this land from the native americans. the same thing happened in the middle east we are the original inhabitiants of that land. There is good and bad in all people there good arabs and bad arabs good jews and bad jews good christians and bad christians. Stop being prejiduice and stop judging an entire race on a few people's actions everyone is different when you judge everyone on the actions of a few you are prejudice. Stop hating each other just live life in peace.

chaldean, chaldeans, iraq, michigan, roman catholic, catholic
By Aeriel
Chaldean
Chaldeans are good, hard working people. I am not Chaldean, yet I can say from my own experiences that these people are truly good-natured and caring, and that they deserve more respect. From even before Christ until today, Chaldeans have been an important part of the history of our world as we know it. Assyrian, through my research i have found that Assyrians and Chaldeans are so close in ancenstry that they are sometimes called Chaldo-Assyrian. Aren't you, in effect, disparaging your own ethnicity and background by posting the definition above? Chaldeans deserve to be recognized for what they are: a kind hearted, hard working Christian people.

Chaldeans' status in American society today is a great example of their tremendous character as a people.
By Sib
Chaldean
The Chaldean People are basically the roman catholic population from/in Iraq. We have a deep importance in history, EX. 1 We were one the first civilizations in mesopatamia (ancient Iraq) and also the Chaldean language derives from Aramaic (the language that Jesus spoke). Most of Chaldeans now live in Iraq, as well as Detroit, Arizona, and also California. Very warm hearted, kind, and hard working ppl. The caucasion ppl in the EMINEM video, welcom to Detroit are all CHALDEAN.

Royce Da 59 - Detroit, A city full of Tommy Hearst thumpers,Grant Hill hoopers, Barry Sanders runners, stunners,and chaldeans we connects like whoa!

^^^^^^PS. FUCK THAT COCK SUCKIN WHITE BOY (Spartan) WHO WROTE THAT COMMENT ABOVE MINE. LET ME CATCH U IN THE D! BITCH.
By Danya
Chaldean
Did you know that Chaldeans speak the oldest language (and the language of Jesus Christ) - Aramaic? Very intersting language. And very intersting people. They originate from Babylon (Iraq is in Babylon), they come from Iraq (they are not Arabs***). They are Catholic. Many live in Michigan. 113,000 Chaldeans in Metro Detroit. They live in the suburbs mostly, because, yes, they have money. How did they get money? Hard work*. They are a very dedicated, driven, hardworking group of people.

They are very family oriented. Being a good Chaldean family is important. (Most) Chaldeans marry Chaldeans and make Chaldean babies**. This is a very good ideal they have. Not that 'mixing' is wrong, but rarely can a person say, I am 100% _____!!! Chaldeans (most of them) can say I am 100% Chaldean!!! (((--From someone with personal experience, save yourself trouble, if you're not Chaldean, don't get involved with one unless you know that his/her family is Americanized, otherwise it will most likely end no good for you.--)))

They can be very kind and funny, or very ignorant, stubborn, strict (as any group can be). Their women have a job, and the men have a job (I think you can guess what those jobs are). Their food is fantastic! The men are SO GORGEOUS! The women are very beautiful!

God Bless!

Chaldeans - - - Are Awesome!

!!!!Go Chaldos!!!!

* A quote from a Chaldean man I worked for at his liquor store, "the key to success is not only working hard, but working smart."

**A quote from my Chaldean friend regarding dating/marrying, "if you're not Chaldean, you don't have a chance with a Chaldean."

***Don't call Chaldeans 'Arabs'. That's just disrespectful. And since I've told you that they are NOT Arabs, it would be very ignorant of you.
By Korney
Chaldean
Assyrian by race and Chaldean by faith. Chaldeans (as they are often referred to) are Assyrians who belong to the Chaldean Catholic Church. Many Assyrian catholics (chaldeans) do not consider themselves Assyrian because of their close association with the Catholic church and not the Assyrian church of the East or any other Assyrian church. However, you will still find many Assyrian catholics (chaldeans) who know that they are Assyrian and will admit it. For some reason, many Assyrian catholics (chaldeans) claim to be Arabic (why the hell they would do that, i dont know), when in actuality they are Assyrians who speak a dialect that seems to have been mixed with both Aramaic (Assyrian) and Arabic. The Assyrian Democratic Movement (ZOWAA) has gone one step further in including the Assyrian catholics (chaldeans) name into the name of the Assyrians....Chaldo-Ashur. This is a highly debated issue among the Assyrian nation, as to why the Chaldean name (a religous name and not the name of an actual race) is intertwined with the national name of Assyrians (Ashurayeh). Oddly enough, the attempt by ZOWAA to unite the Assyrian nation has actually widened the gap between Assyrian non-catholics and Assyrian catholics (chaldeans); many chaldeans do not want to be considered as Assyrians and many Assyrians in turn do not want the Assyrian catholics (chaldeans) to be part of the nation if they so strongly despise their own blood........Wake up Assyrian catholics (chaldeans) of the world...United we can have our own country!!!

The Assyrians are descendants of the people of ancient Mesopotamia, succeeding the Sumero-Akkadian and the Babylonians as one continuous civilization. They are among the first nations who accepted Christianity. Most belong to one of these four churches; the Chaldean Uniate, the Syrian Orthodox Church, the Syrian Catholic Church, and the Assyrian Church of the East. ** It is important to note that all of the above churches and their members are part of the Assyrian nation.
By Flossi
Chaldean
The proper name given by the Pope to describe the ethnic Assyrians who split from the Assyrian Church Of the East to the Roman Catholic Church known as the Great Schism. They speak a dialect of Chaldean Neo-Aramaic. For four centuries the Catholic Church tried to convert the Assyrians to Catholicism. It must be mentioned that the Assyrians of different religious denominations (Orthodoxy, Nestorian, Catholic, Maronite etc.), due to their lack of education, are not united as one nation but hate each other, thinking the others are foreigners!

The King of Assyria; Essarhadon, had 2 sons named Ashurbanipal (who had already been in control of Nineveh to the North) and Shamash-shum-ukin (The Predecessor of KALDU). After King Essarhadon's death, Babylonia was left to be governed by his son Shamash-shum-ukin and eventually revolted against his brother in 652 BC. In 626 Bc, Babylon had eventually threw off the Assyrian rule under King Nabopolassar's reign thus creating the Neo-Babylonian Empire (Chaldean Empire) with Babylon as the capital.
By Stepha